As for Ichigo, he appears to not be included, but Fake Zangetsu was always the source of his Quincy powers, which is probably the reason why his old Bankai couldn't be stolen. Or because Ichigo is such a big friggin combination of every species, it just can't be stolen. Like I've said waayyyy too many times, Strawberry-boy can't be used as an example for anything simply because of his weird hybridization.
Yammamoto burns things out of existence. Ichigo doesn't compare. Besides, Kurosaki may be strong, but even the captains of the Gotei 13 could defeat him together. I don't think they'd even consider challenging the Captain-Commander, teamed up or not. I've been watching bleach again and was about to say something about Tosen. His power is the closest to Ichigo's. More so when you consider Vizards. Again like I've said several times Vizards already had zanpakuto before being hollowfied and their soul reaper powers are separate from their hollow powers.
While we don't know how much sentience their inner hollow have if any at all it is heavily implied that their inner hollow is different from their zanpakuto. This is shown when they are fighting arrancar and are still able to use their zanpakuto's ability.
Obviously we know that tosen had a zanpakuto with both shikai and bankai before hollowfying. He also has 2 hollow forms just like Ichigo. When he is fighting komomura he hollowfied twice. The 2nd time he referred to his power as a resurrection.
Tosen didn't use his bankai after being hollowfied or even his shikai's special power. We can also assume that his inner hollow and his zanpakuto are one because the name of his resurrection was also the name of his bankai. Tosen never used used his zanpakuto's ability after hollowfying this could be because he can't. If you will recall he says he has a resurrection like an arrancar. And an arrancar release is supposed to return them to their original hollow form and their zanpakuto are not sentient like a soul reaper's.
So theoretically it would mean that his zanpakuto lost its sentience when he hollowfied leaving him unable to use it's unique abilities or bankai. While we know where Ichigo's inner hollow came from we don't know anything about how Tosen was hollowfied we can assume it was probably similar to Ichigo's. Most hollow are basically mindless creatures the more powerful ones either keep or retain their intelligence.
Not knowing how strong or unique a hollow was used to hollowfy Tosen it could be a hollow that lacked intellect which upon merging with the zanpakuto spirit causes it to at least temporary lose it's sentience and abilities while white was a mindless creature in the beginning over the years of being sealed within Ichigo's mother and then Ichigo himself his soul likely imprinted on white the same way as one imprints upon an Asauchi granting it intelligence.
How does this relate to Ichigo? Let's start with his"zanpakuto" again. He didn't have one or rather it is more like an arrancar zanpakuto than a soul reaper. They call it a constant release zanpakuto but there are no other characters with such a zanpakuto. The fact that he can't revert it to it's original form is because it never had an original form.
In the beginning he was using rukia's soul reaper powers and that first sword wasn't Zangetsu. Only after his "training" with kisuke and awakening both his inner hollow and soul reaper powers did he have a sword that was his. Since we know how a soul reaper zanpakuto is created from Asauchi it is safe to say that Ichigo's isn't the same. An arrancar zanpakuto is made by an arrancar condensing their power into a blade.
This is very similar to what happened under Kisuke's store when he was training Ichigo. So Ichigo's shikai isn't a shikai it is the sealed form of his hollow powers and his bankai is a resurrection. Not all zanpakuto have a unique ability. Again squad 12 looks down on people whose zanpakuto have strange ability. Ikkaku's shikai and bankai are just powerful weapons. As far as the dragon waking up he says that it is lazy and he has to exchange blows with an enemy to wake it and when it does wake up it doesn't Grant him any unique ability it just increases his spiritual pressure.
Since his zanpakuto was never seen unreleased,couldn't his original "shinkai" be his unreleased zanpakuto, and his "bankai" be his shinkai? So he never actually had bankai until his zanpakuto was reforged. I'm going to try and give my opinions to all of your points but don't think I'm trying to be a dick or anything.
Yes Ichigo is an idiot 2. He spent the majority of the series without using a zanpakuto or at the very least a soul reaper zanpakuto 3. We know that white had the ability of soul infiltration but we don't know how that could carry over. While Quincy powers are hereditary soul reaper powers are not. It is difficult to say if the power would be like his dad's or not. What we do know is that Kaien Shiba's zanpakuto was a water element. If we accept his zanpakuto as being more like an arrancar zanpakuto than a soul reaper's terms like shikai and bankai aren't relevant.
I'd compare it to nnoitora's zanpakuto even sealed it isn't a sword arrancar zanpakuto aren't limited in form like soul reaper zanpakuto are in their sealed state 6. Ichigo is a fool lol we are back at the beginning? Just joking no he definitely doesn't know how his powers are supposed to work.
In his defense a normal soul reaper only has one being in their inner world their zanpakuto. Ichigo has 2. Basically instead of dealing with one person who wants to help he has 2 one who wants to be in control and one who doesn't want the other to be in control. And while Ichigo is one of the strongest characters I feel like like none of his accomplishments really belong to him. He was born into them. As far as not having techniques kenpachi has shown that one can be absurdly powerful without having such techniques.
Melee type weapon. Again very difficult to say because even in the end he hadn't reached his full potential. Most Quincy are ranged fighters but not all. Forum Posts. The wind ceased.
And before one knew it, the two blades had already returned to Hisagi's clasp, as if no time had passed; standing in front of Hikone. F Wiki Points. He is the Captain of Squad 9, and despite his blindness, Kaname Tosen can sense other people around him, and his Lieutenant, Shuhei Hisagi, thinks very highly of him.
This article is a Disambiguation page for "Shuhei Hisagi". The following is a list of pages that share the same name. Bleach was first conceived from Tite Kubo's desire to draw Shinigami "Soul Reaper" in the English adaptations in a kimono, which formed the basis for the design of the Soul Reapers. Das Geschehen und einige Charaktere tauchen nicht im Manga auf, und die Saga beinhaltet die Fillerepisoden.
The tsuba, or handguard, takes the form of a four-paned window with hollow spaces in it. Not every technique has to be base on destructive power like yama and Kenny. He has short black hair that falls slightly above his right eye. Alot of people are disappointed in hisagi's bankai but I fine it fitting. It is the ultimate technique of Captain-class Shinigami. Let me know what you all think!!
Fanon Bankai The below is not Hisagi's canon Bankai but rather one I originally planned to unveil in-story.
Kazeshini Shibo Nawa is like a support bankai just like Urahara's and I think we need more like it in the soul society. He lost his powers and became a wolf during the conflict with the Quincy. Posted by. Papercraft it. When she trained Ichigo she pointed out the fact that he has always released sword, but without offering any explanation for it whatsoever. I thought it was that since each Zanpaktou is unique, that some had a permanent shikai mode.
It was referenced I think during Ichigo's training. Idk which — Blue. Rarst Rarst 3 3 silver badges 7 7 bronze badges. Vogel that's old and common theory, based on Zaraki saying it that he is not maintaining seal on his sword chapter With recent developments it might get disproved, but so far there was nothing to counter it.
As per answer - both are unconventional characters, so mulling how technicalities of imaginary rules apply to them might be tad moot point. It is unclear and was never explained. It's also worth noting that Zangetsu doesn't have a command for awakening. Madara's Ghost Madara's Ghost 19k 18 18 gold badges 99 99 silver badges bronze badges. Community Bot 1. Vogel I modified the answer to make it a rectification, instead of a response to the other answer.
Danalog 3, 7 7 gold badges 33 33 silver badges 53 53 bronze badges. Archangel Archangel 1. His spiritual pressure most probably stops him from doing so and kempatchi has already stated his sword does not have a sealed state due to his sirritual pressure.
Maybe have some sources to confirm it? Gao 9, 8 8 gold badges 53 53 silver badges 94 94 bronze badges.
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